It's with much sadness we report that our friend Vyzygoth has discontinued his excellent program:
The reasons for my withdrawing the program, the closing down of my e-mail addresses, and the subsequent shutting down of the websites are predicated on nothing other than a desire to regain my privacy and time. A one-time, free e-zine is due out shortly, but I will not be involved in any other show or engage in any e-mail correspondences. This e-zine project and perhaps others, though, will be affixed to another website because, at the end of March, this site will be pulled down. If you want to save the 2008-09 audio archives, do it as soon as possible.
It's sad but also quite understandable that Vyz would walk away at the top of his game. He'd been increasingly frustrated by the amount of crap and half-crap that was circulated as valid news by people who should have known better. He had also made it a point to answer every email sent to him--and wound up on every CC list of forwarded rumor and inane ranting imaginable. In his most recent "These Days" installment addressing this surfeit of dreck, he sounds stressed--and tired.
In a conversation I had with him last Friday after he had decided to retire, he sounded much happier. No one should ever make himself a human sacrifice to the alternative media Play-Doh Fun Factory of feces. The world is much wider and richer than the 17-inch monitor in front of you, and certainly these words have much less significance than the concerns and enjoyments teeming just outside the range of its tunnel vision.
By all means download Vyz's programs while you still have the opportunity. There's good stuff there--you won't hear any better. Save the shows, back them up on DVD-R or your external hard drive, and take them out and listen to them when the universe of crap starts to close in on you. You'll feel a bit less lonely in so doing--and God knows it's getting lonely out here.
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AGREE!!!!!!!!! WILL MISS HIM
I'll second that...
I'd been a long time listener of Vyzygoth's Shows. The Grassy Knoll was a real oasis in a dry, parched desert. In a world when the talking heads on TV are so completely full of bull, broadcast media is just obscene corporate propaganda, 'nuff said. Keith's voice was THE ONE that cut through the fog. Pure strait reason from a Christian, go figure! I can also understand his frustration with the so-called movement. Disinfo from the "Paytriot" networks is the other piece of bread in this shit sandwich of spin. Can't blame the man for punting at this point....
Keith,
I just want to thank you for all your efforts.
What you accomplished over the years was greatly appreciated by a
slew of folks out here in the interwebs.
I hope the future holds what your looking for....
peace
Michael
I came to the BTGN show last spring as I was falling head over heels down the rabbit hole. If it weren't for Vyzygoth, Gordon Comstock, and their guests, I would be terribly misled by the networks. I can't thank those guys enough and now they are both gone!
Well, they did their part, and I wish them both the best! I wonder though, how many of the real truth tellers will drop out or be skimmed over for the garbage now that they are gone.
Sighhh ... its a real shame that vyz is leaving us ... but its thoroughly understandable. I frequent one or two message boards (well ... one actually :-D), and I find it hard trying to remain sane just reading through the nonsense people write up there. I can't imagine what it must be like to be inundated with nonsense in your mail box every day.
Having said that Vyz really helped open my eyes to some things that would have passed by me if I hadn't had my eyes open in the right places.
Such as the I-man stuff. What the I-man has said about the American Constitution et al is horrifically important, and really should be shouted from the highest roof tops.
He had guests on that I hadn't heard anywhere else: see Angie Riedel, the late "Kentroversy", the I-man, certain Uticans etc.
He even asked me to be on the program ... twice (!) ... but I declined due to medical reasons and total fear :-D.
Anyway, thanks a lot Vyzygoth. You really were a star (and so young sounding at 58!).
All the best,
schtick (Christchurch, New Zealand)
ps now where the heck are we going to hear the Uticans for 9/11 Truth now? Any ideas, anyone??
pps oh, and it still ain't the bloody vatican by the way, vyz (oh I know I shouldn't kick a person while he's down :-D)
Vyz played a real clean game, and asked great questions of his intriguing guests.
I learned a lot listening to his show.
Take it easy Vyz.
will miss vyz, an oasis in the mire, life is too short though man take it easy there is no way i would be puting up with all that shit at your time of life God bless Sir i wil truly miss your insight and personal integrity. A long time listener.
Yes it's a sad story, but hopefully not for the man himself. All the very best to you Vyz, thanks for the contribution you've made, may God bless you and yours.
I started listening to Vyz a long time ago. He used to have really cool and interesting guests on like Alan Watt, Stephen Shroeder, Al Neal and so many unusual takes on things it kept things very interesting.
*then*
He started culling his guests down to just those he agreed with. He talked trash about the ones he did not agree with.
**then**
He started prolonged rants about "the networks" RBN and GCN. These seemed to end up in every show. Frequently he would have a guest on that seemed interesting, only to have the whole hour turn into a "network" rant.
He would go into fits of rage on air, even at one point swearing at callers. All the while maintaining some kind of half baked pseudo-Christian philosophy.
If you would dare to engage him in criticism he would shut you out and, in my case, tell you to "fuck off". Then he would go on the air and complain about you with his guests, even though he would not respond to emails to discuss the disagreement.
NOW....
He is doing another swan-song and exiting stage left. Clearly his personal world view is causing him to lose his edge. He wants to be a Christian, and this is directing his choices on his show. That would be fine, but in this case his anger and frustration are irrepressible.
He sounds bitter, not tired, and that, my friends, is no fun to listen to.
JoeShmoe, do you recall why Vyz told you to fuck off?
Wow, I didn't know about this, and it explains why I found no new shows. Sadness. I really enjoyed this show a great deal. I listened to it religiously.
Best wishes to Vyzygoth!
Hey Schtick:
Thanks for chiming in. But I’m not down. And you didn’t kick me. It’s all okay.
Now let me lay this out one time: The Vatican is a nation. It is the richest in the world. It has a seat in the U.N. But, like Washington, D.C., it is a storefront that masks the operations of those who do run The Show or as Andy coined: “The Big Casino.” Amen to that.
No one, including me, upon hearing of the machinations of The Vatican and the Society of Jesus believes this can be true. But it is my way to probe deeper. Over the years, I realized the greatest geopolitical forces always came out of Rome to include the first empire—which sought to prevent the birth of Christ, then allowed His death—and the second coming of the Holy Roman Empire.
[And it is interesting that in the Treaty of 1783, which supposedly ended America’s obeisance to The Crown, King George III refers to himself as elector (representative) of the Holy Roman Empire.]
Loyola’s Jesuit Order is not a spiritual order but a military order. Its head is rightly titled “Jesuit General.” There is no organization in the world that compares to this one. It has been in operation for six centuries.
The Vatican and the pope did rule Europe for quite some time, but the Jesuits wrested control and now use the former entities as fronts.
I’m going to leave it at that. But I will say that there are two kinds of people: those who have done the earnest research and have found that the Jesuits—satanic to their core—do run The Show; and those who haven’t done/don’t want to do the research yet wish to scoff at the reality.
I have never found a single person who has read what I and others—to include The Informer—have and not understood who runs The Show. The centuries-worth of books, newspaper accounts, and documents that expose this conspiracy abound, yet The Vatican and the Jesuits get a pass on their perfidy because they have covered their tracks to the satisfaction of unscrutinizing eyes.
As I’ve stated before, this is not a big thing for many Europeans who had ancestors wiped out in the inquisitions and massacres the Jesuits indulged in. I have two books—and am getting more—on The Vatican-Jesuit alliance that have been suppressed (prohibited from being published) in the U.S. And, just as an aside, if anyone has noticed, the American Movie Classics network in only the last three months has twice run, in a quasi-marathon format, Godfather I and II, but never III.
Could that be because Godfather III—in which fiction is based on fact—details The Vatican’s global financial maneuverings, the execution of “The Vatican banker” Roberto Calvi, and the assassination by poisoning of John Paul I?
Nah, probably just a coincidence.
Take care, Schtick, I’m sure we’ll meet again.
Keith
To Joe Shmoe:
You could have at least used your real name, right, Norm, because, after all, you’re such a righteous Christian.
While I won’t deny falling short of what scripture demands by way of behavior and of the way I treated you—to a point. But get this straight: I spun no Christian philosophy of my own and I have never espoused any because that is not in me. And you have never found—and will never find—my cooking up my own version of Christianity. Yet I had to read and listen to dozens of others give me their designer brand of Christianity. So your aforementioned charge is giving false witness, something you have no shame about indulging in repeatedly.
Our discussion of abortion opened my eyes—which I’ll state more about later—but your resorting to affixing views and positions to me in your anger because I did not originally agree with you was character assassination—your Christian-like way of lashing out at me for no other purpose than to hurt me, which exposes within you a certain nastiness of spirit you like to ascribe to me. And let’s make it clear: It was you who threw the mud to which I responded by telling you to fuck off.
Later, with the Collins Brothers, I stated that you had made me think about the weakness in my position on abortion, though I’ve never been an advocate of it, I only felt it should not be an issue that was legislated. I stated that I did not handle the situation well and, for that, I had sincere regrets. That show is still available, by the way, for you to hear.
You also indulge in a very trite and unimaginative way of supporting your position: the practice of exaggeration and distortion, which, too, is nothing other than false testimony.
But, first, I have to laugh at who you held up as good guests:
Alan Watt is, at best, an atheist with a special angst toward Christianity and Christians. He also had plenty to say about the networks and Jones, in particular, and now they’re all one big happy family.
Schroeder was on several times. His focus is narrow—which is absolutely fine—so there’s not that much new with him. He was always welcome and we had a good relationship.
Al Neal is a fake. And that is why he never came on again. The information about occult symbology was fine, but the Bible code stuff is pure fakery. Watch him. His “system” is pure garbage. It has no foundation. It floats. I asked him what the code was. He never answered because it doesn’t exist. Bible codes are not biblical.
So, if two of these three people are your idea of good guests, your lack of discernment speaks volumes.
Now off to your exaggeration and falsehoods:
You wrote: He started culling his guests down to just those he agreed with. He talked trash about the ones he did not agree with.
I never culled guests out. That is a completely unfounded statement. I can only admit to moving away from occult guests like Watt, Tsarion, Red Ice, Bentkowski, Knowles, et. al. And if I only had guests on with whom I agreed, how could I talk trash about guests that you claim I never had on? Can’t have it both ways, Normie.
You wrote: He started prolonged rants about "the networks" RBN and GCN. These seemed to end up in every show. Frequently he would have a guest on that seemed interesting, only to have the whole hour turn into a "network" rant.
I certainly did rant against RBN, GCN and other networks because they are distorting the truth. They are selling lies for truth. And I produced the examples of just such behavior. These rants were confined to the “These Days” shows, not “every show.” And I wear those rants like a badge of honor, believe that. I did not turn guest interviews into whole hour rants. Completely bogus charge, Normie. At best, the Collins Brothers and I would poke fun at Alex-Buy-My-Videos-Jones. And it’s absolutely fine to lampoon. And I won’t apologize for that.
You wrote: He would go into fits of rage on air, even at one point swearing at callers. All the while maintaining some kind of half baked pseudo-Christian philosophy.
Now this really is at the core of what’s bugging you and here, again, you exaggerate to support your position. “Swearing at callers.” Never at a caller, Normie. Never. Here are the two instances to which you refer:
Once with Mary Hartman and the Collins Brothers—all guests—when Mary went off on her pollyannaish meanderings about voting in good government. I didn’t swear at Mary, but at this flight of fancy from someone who found at every turn that not just one, or some, but all levels of government AND law enforcement were corrupt. I could’ve left that out, no doubt. Mary came back on again and again. We were fine. But it seems you’ve been scarred for life.
The other instance involved someone in the chatroom. It was a person who, during a live show, wrote the brainiac statement: “Oh, there’s no conspiracies. If there were, why would he [meaning me] be allowed to do a show on the Internet?”
Why? Because, sweetheart, the government knows that barely a percentage of a percent of Americans are listening. This or any paytriot show is doing them no harm. That brainiac, unfazed, called in right after that and I let her converse with the guest, Chris Knowles. I said nothing to her about her previous idiotic statement. And, by the way, this person is very much into the occult—which is why she follows Knowles around, but she can’t wrap her brain around the reality of conspiracy. Right.
You wrote: If you would dare to engage him in criticism he would shut you out and, in my case, tell you to "fuck off". Then he would go on the air and complain about you with his guests, even though he would not respond to emails to discuss the disagreement.
Right about now, Normie, I’ve had all I’m going to take of your crap. I never ambushed or stepped on a guest, not Watt, not Tsarion, not Red Ice, not anyone. In fact, that’s the reason
why people listened: because I let the guests talk. Red Ice tried to enlist me in their feud with Watt and were less than forthright in their approach. I ripped the phonies because they had it coming. I never shut anyone out—you mean, blocked their e-mails as I did with you?—unless they did exactly what you did.
Throughout the years, Andy has seen a cross-sampling of the cretins I’ve dealt with. I’ve sent him e-mails and bcc’d him on others so he could be witness to the scum that oozed my way. Many were the people who did not agree with me, who did not like me, who probably hated me, but to whom I gave time and concerted response as I did with you, until they started throwing the insults around. Then it was over. Just as it was with you. You made the cracks, Normie, not I. I wished I had handled it differently, but I was not the one who tried to injure. That was you. What you laid out in that second of the two above paragraphs is really just about you and me. Nobody else has suffered at my hands the way you say they did. You just can’t let it go. You hold onto it. It defines you. That’s who you are.
When you wrote to me about abortion, you wrote that those who engaged in it should be shot then hanged. I understand that shooting then hanging the corpse is overkill—excuse the pun— but I took it as an expression of your hatred as part of the whole of your e-mails’ tenor. You told me you were—what?—being ironic, perhaps a bit hyperbolic. But I have to tell you, and I am serious as a heart attack, that you never struck me as a person whose mental capabilities were all that, ah, acute. So, yeah, I took your words as hatred. For that I apologize. And I apologize for telling you to fuck off. I also am less than proud of myself for the outbursts with Mary and the brainiac occult woman. I’m also not proud of the many e-mails supporting those outbursts because—as many wrote—“somebody needed to say it.” But I will not apologize for the rants, attacks, call it what you want, against many of the network hosts, because they are lying, they are corrupting communication. They sell false hopes and bad information for a living. They are below crab cum.
You, Normie, have been waiting for me to leave—but I’m not really leaving, just relocating. You’ve been skulking around the periphery of my program, waiting for what you consider your moment of victory. In that way, you’re no better than any cyber stalker. You are pathetic. You are one of those pitiable souls who walks into a crowded room and sucks the life force out of it with your mere presence. That’s what you do. That’s what your good at. You’re a whiner. A mope. You don’t produce anything. You just take. You feed off others. And, frankly, you’re a bit scary in the way an aqualung is.
I never did the show to make money. I never asked for donations. I don’t have the deep pocket money that Jones and The Power Hour benefit from. It’s not my living so I don’t have to keep it going. I may talk trash—which I find nothing wrong in—but I don’t talk bullshit, which is what the network hosts do to keep a neanderthal audience listening so they can sell advertising. If that’s to your liking, go listen to that swill, start a fan club chapter for Alex, go get coffee for Stadtmiller. Now stop wringing your hands in glee, wipe the snot from your nose, and just shut up and do something.
Keith Hansen
Nice to know we are back to a first name basis, Keith.
Also nice to know that our little tiff gave you a more pure vision of abortion.
You know, I never said anything personal about you. Just that your show wasn't as good as it could be, and I think I am right. I never called you a name, correct me if I am wrong.
You on the other hand, go overboard insulting me and making broad accusations. Nice.
You seem to delight being angry, Vyz and I think that is why you are dropping out.
Do you feel like attacking everybody else gives you some kind of credibility?
Your post is far more frightening than anything I have ever written or said, "crab cum"?!?!? Dude, you have problems.
Oh and don't bother posting a reply to this thread hoping I will read more scathing remarks and have hurt feelings, Keith.
You have made my point abundantly clear through your post here.
I won't be checking back and wont post a reply. So have a nice life.
I don't deny havng a short fuse, but I let myself get that way because of the incredible number of idiots I dealt with during the beyond the grassy knoll shows. That's when I realized that popularity is not what I want. And there were several mental patients like Norm whose MO's were identical. You read his posts and tell me he didn't hand me personal slights. Also you haven't seen his e-mails. So, that's right, Normie, exonerate yourself from any wrong doing. Be the victim you wish to be. There's plenty like you I've found out. So you all should create a society for yourselves.
I make no apology for pissing all over the paytriot hosts. Most of them are pure liars and snake oil salesmen. The rest are just unoriginal copy cats. They all sell false hopes.
And, Normie baby, don't even dare presume to tell me what to do.
Remember: don't rule out suicide.
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