Monday, May 19, 2008

VYZ KICKS BLOGTALK ASS

Our friend Vyzygoth appears on The Threshing Floor with host Randy Maugans for a one-hour discussion of that Bastion of Free Speech (and Censorship), Blogtalk. Listen through audio links on the page or download the mp3 of the program here.

94 comments:

Anonymous said...

Great!!!

"The works of the confusers shall be confounded and the tongue of the fools shall be stilled"

At last the Occultic decievers are being SILENCED!!!

Anonymous said...

Shame he was not preaching the gospel, then maybe all this hoo ha hah nonsense may have actually been of some value!

Anonymous said...

yey!

and lo God did say go and preach thou the good news of 911 and save ye thy nation!

blah blah

Anonymous said...

A sign?
You really think so?

Anonymous said...

Yes a sign!
Look for one it is written.........
On the georgia guidestone ,

and for two if you do not believe that ask Andy Coleman, the mothman had appeared and spoke to him about it!
ok so you want proof!
911 theres ya proof

ask the author of the books on Nostradamus he is a prophet dopnt you know!!!!!
or ask that witch she knows, you will never know nothing your all sheep you got to........ wake up from your slumber oh sleeper and mothman will shine on you.

YES IT IS A SIGN,

AND ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED GOD'S GIFTS AND CALLING ARE IRREVOCABLE YOU KNOW!!
THEY ARE NOT DEPENDENT ON MANS FAITHFULNESS BUT HIS.

LIVE BY THE SWORD OF THE WORD OR DIE BY IT.

Anonymous said...

And to RANDY, preach the whole truth do not conceal it.For the below verse is the most important on your pet subject.

concerning the spiritual destiny of the fleshly jewish people of Isreal whom God the father of Our Lord Jesus Christ called back to the Holy land of Isreal. God uses the actions of men,Just like when the pagan king of old let them go back to the land ,God is still the one who pronounced what will happen before it did!

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?


25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Andy said...

Your point being . . . ?

Anonymous said...

No god worth his salt would distinguish between "fleshly Jews" and Gentiles. Nor would he be in the business of handing out land deeds.

Fuck that god!

Anonymous said...

Sorry i placed this is the wrong place it should be here.

From A believer in the Lord Jesus Christ ,The Son Of The Living God


Dear Uticans and any other people,
a false teaching alert.

There is a group of people calling themselves christians who are active in the alternative media, who despise both Jesus Christ his Father and all God's his People.
Below i set the truth out plainly and rebuff and correct them whith great joy!



Isreal as a nation cannot be counterfiet they were foreknown by God to in part go into in unberlief, the very idea of them bieng counterfiet is a confusion and a misnoma, they are our enemies on account of the gospel already until they come back in to faith and so are saved by christ! so what would counterfiet mean in these circumstances? it's a nonsense! they are also going to to come out of unberlief.

That is the outcome and then, as it is written "all isreal shall be saved" for God says so unmistakenly in his word!

The isreal of the flesh shall become ingrafted into their own natural olive tree for they are the natural branches, and then they shall be of the true Isreal for as st paul says not all islreal is isreal, that is st paul explaining what a true jew is!! as he did elsewhere.

He was highliting the difference between those who had christ the true circumcision and those who were hardened and in unberlief toward christ and of the jews of the fleash and unberlieving, yet in romans God says in the end all isreal shall be saved, that is all the people of the twleve tribes who are known collectivley today as jews via the tribe of judah shall be saved.
Jews is a generic term applied to the tribes in general.
we are not physically isreal nor are we physically jews, everything is by faith and the promise and is a spiritual inherentence to do with the kingdom of isreal and its king, the messiah, which is also to be understood spiritually and has to do with the kingdom of heaven.
But the physical nation of jews would be called to return to the physical jewsih homeland of the land of isreal, as it is written in the word of God.







Thank goodness You actually believe the word of God, unlike mr Frank lordi and Randy who sadly twist and disregard the word like a vandal or they have no ears to hear, for i state in the Holy Spirit that Isreal is the apple of God's eye and the gifts and calling of God are irrevocable and nothing shall happen to his people isreal without God knowing so, even the event of they as a people returning to the land he gave their patriach abaraham!
What arrogence these false teachers have, they expect men to think God has no power or interest in those " Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.



And as the scripture does say, "all isreal SHALL be saved".
Plainly By The Lord and saviour of all Jesus Christ and no false teachers shall stop him from doing so.


whoever lives by the sword shall die by the sword.

33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

Come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

oh and by the way viz stop promoting occultism and the teachings of the false teachers the above post refers too.

You already suffered once as i warned you would.

RandyM said...

"Anonymous said...

And to RANDY, preach the whole truth do not conceal it.For the below verse is the most important on your pet subject.

concerning the spiritual destiny of the fleshly jewish people of Isreal whom God the father of Our Lord Jesus Christ called back to the Holy land of Isreal. God uses the actions of men,Just like when the pagan king of old let them go back to the land ,God is still the one who pronounced what will happen before it did!"

Why is it alway "Anonymous" who posts this "cut-and-paste" theology in response to extensive research in scripture (and why is it "Anonymous" can't spell?). Show me WHERE the "Jews" are ever called back to Israel. Show how God did not issue a divorce to Israel.

Read: "Jeremiah 3:8 And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce; yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
9 And it came to pass through the lightness of her whoredom, that she defiled the land, and committed adultery with stones and with stocks. {lightness: or, fame}
10 And yet for all this her treacherous sister Judah hath not turned unto me with her whole heart, but feignedly, saith the LORD. {feignedly: Heb. in falsehood}
11 And the LORD said unto me, The backsliding Israel hath justified herself more than treacherous Judah."


You speak half-truths in ignorance and don't even sign your name. You wanna quote scripture, do it with some integrity.

Randy Maugans-The Threshing Floor
www.threshingfloor-radio.com
Email" threshingfloor@verizon.net

I am NOT afraid to tell you who I am and how to find me.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Maugans,

You Mr Maugans, not I are as i say choosing and picking the word of God for your self crafted message, the word of God and God himself will deal with you about that.


Isreal has in part undergone hardening of heart until the full number of gentiles come into the Kingdom, as you full well know this is the truth, yet you twist the word of God to justify your self appointed judging and add fuel to the gathering hatred of both those named christian and those called of the circumcision and as a nation Isreal.

The gentiles are a wild branch and have been grafted into the olive tree that God himself Created, planted and nourished that symbolicly portrays isreal.

The Lord will fulfill all his promises concerning that Olive tree that is symbolic of Isreal. The Lord does not break his promises, that promise is this mr Maugen:



<< Romans 11 >>
King James Bible

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.


Congratulations on your skill with grammer and typing.

In the world this is impressive for you and useful for your works, may your Love for The Truth become as preficient in the future i pray.

You berate the Political right who are lost sheep who listen to men, yet you yourself also twist the word of God hastening the satanic goal of the whole world rising up against the jewish people and the true church of Jesus Christ as prophesised in zachariah and the book of revelation.

You are rightly exposing the political liars who think weapons of war are a blessing and that just be being born jewish they inherit automatic salvation!

yet you twist the situation to your own end and do not tell the truth concerning how God looks at all this based upon how he looks at isreal now because of his eternal rightiosness ,Love and grace which gave birth to his promises that he himself always fulfills.

Too him the people of Isreal are Beloved :


"they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

And if they are not Jews ,they are gentiles so God Loves them too! i mean to refer to the arguments and so called research of those evil wicked men that should be ashamed of their evil work for they break the greatest commandments, knowingly with their evil little theories and race favouring that cause blanket judging and the tempation and desire to stir up stone throwing.

Because they constantly voice these disputes about who is who in the nation of isreal as it is today, and i may add as if i should HAVE TO! we are commanded to love even a demonstrable enemy, not just those who love us! So if a man is somehow in isreal and not of the tribes should we then hate him because he somehow was amongst a people that converted hundreds of years ago!

Is this the type of thing you yourself pander to Mr Maugons? for i tell you it is an evil and Not of God to spread such wicked so called research, research designed to an evil end which is obvious to all, and research based upon wicked ungodly and worldy principlestotaly opposite and foriegn to the teachings and commandments of Christ Jesus.

You want to breathe out half truths about isreal you will end up using not God truth butlies and spread only discord and hatred. That is why is said tell the whole truth in my other post that refred to you by name.


It is simple , In truth you should be joyously telling the hope of isreals' God planned future as laid out by St Paul in his great revelations about the future of present isreal according to the Lord's great mercy concerning they position now and their ingrafting back into thier natural roots! And get on with the preaching of the good news that will produce this great future hope!


Instead your so called work and so called "RESEARCH" is fruitless and dead for it does not produce HOPE AND LOVE, it only breeds and creates yet more self justified contempt for God's "Beloved" and WILL PRODUCE FURTHER DISCORD AND JUSTIFICATION FOR HATRED OF THEM AND THE TRUE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST WHOM THEY ARE GOING TO COME INTO ACCORDING TO GOD'S OWN WORD.

It is clear to any that only by the grace of God ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED BY THEIR COMING TO THEIR MESSIAH AND BEING THROUGH FAITH IN THAT SAME JESUS THE MESSIAH INGRAFTED BACK INTO THEIR OLIVE TREE THAT THE LORD GOD OF ISREAL IN HIS GREAT MERCY GAVE TO THEM IN HIS GREAT LOVE AND MERCY. RESULTING IN LIFE FROM THE DEAD- THE RESSURECTION AND GLORIFICATION OF THE SAINTS AND THOSE WHO ARE BELIEVING ON EARTH, AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST FROM HEAVEN AT THE LAST TRUMP.

As is written in the book of ZACHARIAH.


What an oppertunity you miss mr Maugans.


For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.



The above is The wisdom of God.
What i write concerning these things are based upon that word of wisdom , the truth that comes from the Lord himself who is LOVE.
I do not contradict God by saying he has no more plans for isreal that he has totally rejected them , for the new testament plainly says he does have very great and blessed plans for isreal!

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?


1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid.

May (all) Isreal turn to (Their) Lord Jesus Messiah, who (is) Lord of (All) including the tribe of Judah whom you so vehemently judge when that is God's pregotive not yours.

I PRAY IN A HOPE THAT WILL NOT DISSAPOINT, FOR THAT FULNESS ST PAUL SPEAKS ABOUT TO BE REALISED AND SOON.



I will also pray for you to show mercy to all isreal and to understand what that means for all God's people.


instead of making scriptural arguments that only fuel both confusion and hatred which is a fruit of darkness.


I ALSO HOPE MY CONSTANT REPEATING OF THE SCRIPTURAL VERSES THAT REFER TO THE FACT THAT ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED, GET THROUGH TO YOU MR Maugans AND ANY OTHERS WHO READ THIS.



Come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

Dear Mr Maugans,

You Mr Maugans, not I are as you say,are choosing and picking the word of God for your self crafted message, the word of God and God himself will deal with you about that.


Isreal has in part undergone hardening of heart until the full number of gentiles come into the Kingdom, as you full well know this is the truth, yet you twist the word of God to justify your self appointed judging and add fuel to the gathering hatred of both those named christian and those called of the circumcision and as a nation Isreal.

The gentiles are a wild branch and have been grafted into the olive tree that God himself Created, planted and nourished that symbolicly portrays isreal.

The Lord will fulfill all his promises concerning that Olive tree that is symbolic of Isreal. The Lord does not break his promises, that promise is this mr Maugen:



<< Romans 11 >>
King James Bible

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel saying, 3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then it is no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.

7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.

9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:

10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.

11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy. 12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness? 13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office: 14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them. 15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead? 16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.

17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree; 18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee. 19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in. 20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear: 21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off. 23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again. 24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance. 30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief: 31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.


Congratulations on your skill with grammer and typing.

In the world this is impressive for you and useful for your works, may your Love for The Truth become as preficient in the future i pray.

You berate the Political right who are lost sheep who listen to men, yet you yourself also twist the word of God hastening the satanic goal of the whole world rising up against the jewish people and the true church of Jesus Christ as prophesised in zachariah and the book of revelation.

You are spending tome on the political liars who think weapons of war are a blessing and that just be being born jewish they inherit automatic salvation.

But st paul is clearly stating as does zachariah that God's future plans for isreal are absolutley amazing!! for God's word plainly speaks of the salvation of ALL ISREAL.
You make a claim rightly so that earthly bloodlines do not ensure salvation, yet you choose for some strange reason to target using the same criteria that i myself have never once used, yet you accuse me of it and others no doubt, you say

Quote:

Why is it alway "Anonymous" who posts this "cut-and-paste" theology in response to extensive research in scripture (and why is it "Anonymous" can't spell?). Show me WHERE the "Jews" are ever called back to Israel. Show how God did not issue a divorce to Israel.

You are making a racial distinction above, even more a tribal one.
Are you saying God judges according to the principles you accuse others of doing

Plainly you yourself are auguing God hates isreal eternally based upon their race and judah specifically for some reason and has divoced them forever.




THE JEWS ARE BACK IN ISREAL SO PLAINLY GOD ALLOWED THEM TO GO BACK.

ISREAL UNBERLIEVING, YES THERE IS A PROBLEM BUT THE WORD OF GOD LETS US INTO A SECRET HE ANSWERS A MYSTERY.

romans/11. 25-31

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through YOUR mercy they also may obtain mercy.

THE VATICAN DECIDED NO MERCY BY THE WAY AS THEY DID WITH OTHERS.
THEY BROKE THE COMMANDMENT!







Yes you twist the situation to your own end and do not tell the truth concerning how God looks at all this based upon how he looks at israel now, because of his eternal rightiosness ,Love and grace which gave birth to his promises that he himself always fulfills.

Too him the remnent people of Isreal are Beloved . "they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

And if they are not Jews , i mean to refer to the arguments and so called research of those evil wicked men that should be ashamed of their evil work for they break the greatest commandments knowingly with their evil little theories and race choosing that cause blanket judging and the tempation and desire to stir up stone throwing! because they constantly voice these disputes about who is who in the nation as it is today, they are gentiles so God Loves them too! and i may add as if i should HAVE TO! we are commanded to love even a demonstrable enemy, not just those who love us!




You want to breathe out lies and spread only discord and hatred.

While in truth you should be joyously telling the hope of isreals' God planned future as laid out by St Paul in his great revelations about the future of present isreal according to the Lord's great mercy!

Instead your so called work and so called "RESEARCH" is fruitless and dead for it does not produce HOPE AND LOVE, it only breeds self justified contempt for God's "Beloved" and FURTHER DISCORD AND JUSTIFICATION FOR HATRED OF THEM.

It is clear to any that only by the grace of God ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED BY THEIR COMING TO THEIR MESSIAH AND BEING THROUGH FAITH IN THAT SAME JESUS THE MESSIAH INGRAFTED BACK INTO THEIR OLIVE TREE THAT THE LORD GOD OF ISREAL IN HIS GREAT MERCY GAVE TO THEM IN HIS GREAT LOVE AND MERCY. RESULTING IN LIFE FROM THE DEAD- THE RESSURECTION AND GLORIFICATION OF THE SAINTS AND THOSE WHO ARE BELIEVING ON EARTH, AND THE RETURN OF JESUS CHRIST FROM HEAVEN AT THE LAST TRUMP.

As is written in the book of ZACHARIAH.


What an oppertunity you miss mr Muagans.


For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.



The above is The wisdom of God.
What i write concerning these things are based upon that word of wisdom , the truth that comes from the Lord himself who is LOVE.
I do not contradict God by saying he has no more plans for isreal for the new testament plainly says he does have very great and blessed plans for isreal!

15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?




May (all) Isreal turn to (Their) Lord Jesus Messiah, who (is) Lord of (All) including the tribe of Judah whom you so vehemently judge when that is God's pregotive not yours.



I will pray for you to show mercy to all isreal and to understand what that means for all God's people.

1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid.

May (all) Isreal turn to (Their) Lord Jesus Messiah, who (is) Lord of (All) including the tribe of Judah whom you so vehemently judge when that is God's pregotive not yours.

I PRAY IN A HOPE THAT WILL NOT DISSAPOINT, FOR THAT FULNESS ST PAUL SPEAKS ABOUT TO BE REALISED AND SOON.



I will also pray for you to show mercy to all isreal and to understand what that means for all God's people.


instead of making scriptural arguments that only fuel both confusion and hatred which is a fruit of darkness.


I ALSO HOPE MY CONSTANT REPEATING OF THE SCRIPTURAL VERSES THAT REFER TO THE FACT THAT ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED, GET THROUGH TO YOU MR Maugans AND ANY OTHERS WHO READ THIS.

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through YOUR mercy they also may obtain mercy.

Come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through YOUR mercy they also may obtain mercy. 32 For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.

33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out! 34 For who hath known the mind of the Lord? or who hath been his counsellor? 35 Or who hath first given to him, and it shall be recompensed unto him again? 36 For of him, and through him, and to him, are all things: to whom be glory for ever. Amen.

Glory to The Lord God Of Isreal Through Jesus Christ , King Of Kings' And Lord Of Lords'

Come Lord!

Anonymous said...

correction on second post

If there are gentiles or jewish converts from another land or arabs or wheover living in isreal today where does God command hatred?


If there are gentiles or karzarian jews? living in isreal today where does God command them to be hated by the discples of Jesus Christ or where does he command blankcet judgement against any tribe of peoples for political or racial porposes .

God deisres the salavtion of every one no matter they be jew greek or gentile to use a biblical description that was a refrence to God desire for all mankind to be saved through his Son Jesus Christ.


Anyone that spends hours of time creating race centered conspiritorial theories is not doing the work of God but rather the idle works of darkness pointing men to worldy and political useless dung.
the same goes for indepth endless scrutiny of the pathetic symbols and works and meanings of the occult.

Come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

<< Romans 11 >>
Young's Literal Translation







25 For I do not wish you to be ignorant, brethren, of this secret -- that ye may not be wise in your own conceits -- that hardness in part to Israel hath happened till the fulness of the nations may come in;

26 and so all Israel shall be saved, according as it hath been written, 'There shall come forth out of Sion he who is delivering, and he shall turn away impiety from Jacob,

27 and this to them is the covenant from Me, when I may take away their sins.'

28 As regards, indeed, the good tidings, they are enemies on your account; and as regards the choice -- beloved on account of the fathers; 29 for unrepented of are the gifts and the calling of God; 30 for as ye also once did not believe in God, and now did find kindness by the unbelief of these: 31 so also these now did not believe, that IN YOUR kindness they also may find kindness; 32 for God did shut up together the whole to unbelief, that to the whole He might do kindness.

Anonymous said...

The below verse speaks of those who will not show MERCY or KINDNESS to ISREAL, THEY ARE THE HEATHEN THEY ARE THE FALSE CHURCH

THEY ARE NOT OF THE TRUE CHURCH WHO WILL SHOW TRUE MERCY TO ISREAL AND REJOICE AT THE GREAT HOPE GOD SET OUT IN ROMANS CONCERNING "ALL ISREAL BEING SAVED'



THEY SEND ISREAL WEAPONS WHILST THEY ARM THEIR ENEMIES AND CALL IT A BLESSING.

THEY TEACH ISRAEL THE WAYS OF THIS WORLD ON ONE HAND YET SAY THEY PREACH THE TRUE TEACHINGS OF CHRIST YET JUSSTIFY IN THEIR WORLD CHURCH THE USE OF VIOLENCE ACCORDING TO THEIR OWN DECISIONS.

ACTING AS IF A FRIEND WHILE ALL THE WHILE CONSPIRING WITH THEIR ENEMIES HOW TO ULTIMATELY DESTROY THEM WITH THEIR DECIET OF SAYING WE WORK FOR PEACE AND SECURITY.


THEY WILL FAIL.

THEY WILL FOLLOW THE BEAST AND THE CHEER FOR THE DESTRUCTION OF ISREAL WHEN ALL THE NATIONS COME UP AGAINST HER AND LORD JESUS DESTROYS ANY WHO TOUCH HER AND WARNS ANY OF THAT NUMBER NOW TO REPENT OF THEIR HATRED OF GOD'S BELOVED SON.



<< Psalm 2 >>
King James Bible
1 Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,

3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.

5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

8 Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him.

<< Psalm 2 >>

Anonymous said...

NOTE:]
ISRAEL NOT JUST JERUSALEM!

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for ISRAEL.

http://kingjbible.com/zechariah/12.htm

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. 4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem. 7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah. 8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them. 9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

<< Zechariah 12 >>

Anonymous said...

THEN.

ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED

Anonymous said...

14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Anonymous said...

YES
ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED
JESUS SHALL COME DESTROY THE SON OF PERDITION
AND BY HIS WORD COMMAND THE RESSURECTION !

Anonymous said...

1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land. 3 And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth. 4 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive: 5 But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth. 6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

Anonymous said...

<< Zechariah 14 >>
King James Bible
1 Behold, the day of the LORD cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee. 2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city. 3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle. 4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south. 5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.

6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark: 7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.

8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.

9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.

10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses. 11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth. 13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour. 14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance. 15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ass, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.

16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain. 18 And if the family of Egypt go not up, and come not, that have no rain; there shall be the plague, wherewith the LORD will smite the heathen that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles. 19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all nations that come not up to keep the feast of tabernacles.

20 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses, HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD; and the pots in the LORD's house shall be like the bowls before the altar. 21 Yea, every pot in Jerusalem and in Judah shall be holiness unto the LORD of hosts: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein: and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of hosts.

<< Zechariah 14 >>

Anonymous said...

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.


28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the father's sakes. 29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

30 For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:

31 Even so have these also now not believed, that through YOUR mercy they also may obtain mercy.









10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.


26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.

YES
ALL ISRAEL SHALL BE SAVED


14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.







And On That Day When The Lord returns from Heaven The Lord shall raise the dead who have fallen asleep in him, and those alive on earth he will change and give glorious incorruptable bodies, and they all shall be caught up to the be with the Lord Forever.


16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

<< 1 Thessalonians 4 >>


And On That Day When The Lord returns from Heaven
he shall destroy the son of perdition by the brightness of his coming and the breath of his mouth.


<< 2 Thessalonians 2 >>
King James Bible
1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
DAY OF THE LORD IS THE SAME AS THE DAY OF CHRIST
IS CHRIST NOT THE LORD?

3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? 6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

http://kingjbible.com/2_thessalonians/2.htm

Anonymous said...

NOTE:The below verse from zechariah is adressed to ALL ISREAL AND CONCERNS ALL THE TRIBES ALL OF THEM , EVERY FAMILY!


ALL ISRAEL NOT JUST JERUSALEM!

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for ISRAEL.

http://kingjbible.com/zechariah/12.htm

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.

2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it. 4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness. 5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.

Anonymous said...

ALL ISREAL TURN TO THEIR MESSIAH JESUS.

10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon.

12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart;

13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart;

14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

ALL ISREAL SHALL BE SAVED
NOT BY POLITICS NOT BY GUNS OR WORLD PEACE AND SECURITY TREATIES ,NOT BY RACE OR GOOD WORKS BUT BY THE LORD JESUS CHRIST THE SON OF THE LIVING GOD.

Andy said...

You're making God yawn.

RandyM said...

Anonymous: Anonymous said...

ALL ISREAL TURN TO THEIR MESSIAH JESUS.

My eyes bleed from trying to parse this pile of dung you cobbled together via "cut-and-paste"---problem is that verbosity doesn't change facts. I'll not bore the readers here further---as well should you also not.
For someone who loves Israel so much you oughtta learn to spell it---it is after all your false idol!
Randy Maugans

Anonymous said...

Dear Randy,

You reveal a spirit that makes good sense of the reason you share a guest list with witches and nostrodamus prophets on vyzygoth's shows.

I do not idolise Isreal, I want souls to be saved by Christ whether they be of the Jews or gentiles in regard to natural birth.

You on the other hand are at pains to promote the lie that isreal has no further purpose in the plan of God and revel in your saying so continually, promoting it in your numerous monologues on podcasts.

The nation of Israel is Made up of people of the circumcision of the flesh, this is the subject matter that st paul is addressing in Romans 11.
Maybe in your own mind you consider Isreal only a plot of land, i do not , if so you are thinking un-spiritually and maybe this is the reason for your errors.
Fir st paul sees them as a people , his own people

In romans 11 He is not adressing a problem that concerns the true isreal of the circumcision of the heart by the Holy Ghost, but he is adressing what he calls A MYSTERY concerning those of the circumcision of the flesh, those who are not saved!


Anyone with ears to hear will know that in romans st paul was Writing a revelation concerning unsaved Isreal and their purpose in th plan of God.

a Revelation that concerns unsaved Isreals'position in Gods plan in the present age of the gentiles which he describes as a mystery, a mystery by definition is a puzzle.

Websters:

synonyms mystery, problem, enigma, riddle.

This Mystery of unsaved Isreal is something which is meant to baffle or perplex.

A mystery applies to what cannot be fully understood by reason or less strictly to whatever resists or defies explanation

25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery,

lest ye should be wise in your own conceits;

that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

If St Paul had not said that unberlieving Isreal being in unberlief IN PART was a MYSTERY it would not be clear to any it was A Mystery, for all who looked into it would consider some did not believe some did that just the way it is, and leave it at that or rejoice that they considered themselves superior for their acceptance over those who were once of the house of spiritual isreal and who had been hardened and cut off.


It is precisely because St Paul makes clear that this is A MYSTERY that the one with ears to hear should prick them up and listen.

St paul says there is a reason you should not be ignorant of this MYSTERY, incase you consider yourself wise.

The answer to this MYSTERY IS NOT THAT YOU ARE NOT WISE, EVEN THOUGH YOU ARE NOT FOR WISDWOM COMES FROM GOD NOT YOU.


No we need to understand there IS A MYSTERY
So Why would st paul consider this a mystery?


He answers it very clearly with the words "In Part" and "Until."



AND THE KEY TO UNDERSTANDING THIS IS TO SEE HE IS NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY OTHERS EXCEPT THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIEVE.They are the ones who have been hardened IN PART (for some believed) UNTIL all those of the gentile nations outside isreal have come in and been saved by faith in Jesus christ.

And so we look at the word to fully understand what IN PART AND UNTIL really means concerning Isael the judged and unberlieving.

Zachariah

1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.


2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.


Here we see God saying in that time and on that day that the nations come against Jerusalem He will destroy them.

9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.


Then in verse 10 straight after the above verse we have this that caanot possibly refer to heavenly jerusalem for it concerns the unsaved turning to Jesus for the first time in repentance , that is impossible in the heavenly jerusalem for it's inhabitants are believers!


10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn. 11 In that day shall there be a great mourning in Jerusalem, as the mourning of Hadadrimmon in the valley of Megiddon. 12 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.


1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

The above verses are explicitly and at pains to express the fact that every single family of every single Tribe are mourning in repentence toward the one they suddenly because of God's grace know and admit they pierced and in the very same DAY the blood of Christ washes them clean!






When did ALL the families of TRIBES of Israel mourn for christ and look upon him in full repentance knowing they are the ones who pierced him?


Then Zachariah clearly states the washing away of the sins of all those families of ALL the TRIBES israel will occur,

When ever did every family of ALL the Tribes of Isreal receive cleansing of sin?


This word came to the whole house of isreal, the isreal God judged time and again, it does not refer to the gentile nations .

For All the families of every tribe of israel , every family apart shall mourn for the one they have pierced!


Then Zachariah says they shall every one of them, every family of every tribe of isreal shall be cleansed from sin!
Zachariah could not have been refering to heavenly jerusalem for heavenly jerusalem is the bride that comes down from heaven ,it is not explicitly made up of all isreal for asst paul said some of them were hardened in PART UNTIL the above prophecies in Zachariah are fulfilled and that generation of the whole house of unsaved isreal, the last of their generation before jesus returns are given a spirit of grace and suplication and are led by the father home .


All this prior to his return and based entirely on their believing in him!




So what is you problem with all Isreal being saved by their turning turning to their messiah?
As is so graphically and emphatically described in the book of zachariah?



2 And the land shall mourn, every family apart; the family of the house of David apart, and their wives apart; the family of the house of Nathan apart, and their wives apart; 13 The family of the house of Levi apart, and their wives apart; the family of Shimei apart, and their wives apart; 14 All the families that remain, every family apart, and their wives apart.

Anonymous said...

The hypocrasy of mr Randy Maugans.

you shall have no plant in thy house if you find it is green and you like it especially if it on 25 th of december for you be controlled by special days, and just in case you worship it. And mistakenly think it was created by God for your enjoyment.

I will ban anyone from my forum who wants to be free in christ and appreciate such a green tree that God has made.

Yet i will readily go on a show that has had a practicing witch on it discussing the evils of the nwo and how they are black magic as opposed to white , and who's same show host agreed and said "paganism has had a bad rap" .

And i will gratfully go on same said hosts show who has the prophet who follows nostrodamus on his show for he thinks the incitefulness of such a man is of intricite value.

Also i will not ban that show host for i will speak with him as if he was a brother in christ, but that lady who likes to be free to put whatever she likes in her house that God has made for her to enjoy I WILL CALL A PAGAN!
DO YOU BELIEVE IN THE MOTHMAN ASWELL MR MAUGANS DO YOU APRROVE OF A SHOW THAT PROMOTES THE OCCULT?


DO YOU STRIVE TO AVOID ALL APpEARANCE OF EVIL MR MAUGANS?

And no, i am not that lady , but i found the hypocritical faithless apostate and pharisee like behaviour worthy of comment.

Andy said...

Why don't you take this argument outside? This is a respectable joint, and you're distracting the other patrons from the enjoyment of their beer.

David Wilson said...

I have in my possession an audio trial transcript where a one Randy Maugans is paid to lie on the witness stand for a one James Lloyd. I was listening to some of his testimony when I decided to do a search of ®andy and came to this particular site from http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message566217/pg1 What was particular funny about Randy's testimony in this audio transcript is that at the beginning of it he says he was providing hos services for free to Mr. Lloyd but later on, under cross examination, he says he was remunerated for somethbing like 50 dollars an hour for 60 hours and 80 dollars an hour for 15 hours. I will be putting this stuff up on my own blog account (linking to it) and on youtube down the road. There are already several audio links to some of the courtroom testimony there now. The site is http://christianmedianetworkexposed.blogspot.com/

David Wilson said...

Click Here to go site that explains with whom ®andy associates himself. Lots more will be coming there including audios of ®andy on the stand.

David Wilson said...

lol@ "show". Randy Maugans is definitely in show business. Most everything he does is a show. Nothing more.

David Wilson said...

Listen to Randy Maugans lie on the witness stand right here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFKE4uTZEas

James Lloyd would love to sue me over the publication of this but he knows he can't get anywhere. I am not intimidated by the guy nor am I intimidated by his paid effeminate liar Randy Maugans.

David Wilson said...

Cre8veheart said...

Your supposed "FALSE PROPHET ALERT " and your VYZ KICKS BLOGTALK ASS is interesting considering the following link. Believe me they do tie together.
BTW what is wrong with providing some proof to your serious accusations? Does this website have a bad reputation. Sure looks shady.
Anyway please hear two good friends VYZGOTH and RANDY MAUGANS together with their other good friend Gordon Comstock of " The Ministry of Truth ON TWO HOUR CHRISTIAN PROPHECY SHOW KICKING BLOGTALK RADIO ASS K?
It's EPIC!! LIMK below

http://threshingfloor-radio.com/index.php/2010/03/watchmen-live-kingdoms-of-the-world-exposed-hour-1/

After hearing this Make up your own minds you neophyte wimps

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