Good strategy, poor execution. The point I was trying to make was the buildings were being destroyed as they descended meaning they were encountering maximal resistance. Keeler obviously does not have x-ray vision. He wasn't seeing floors hitting floors any more than he was seeing people or desks, chairs, core columns etc.
But even saying floors were pulverizing he was acknowledging the building was being destroyed and I probably still should have went with that.
So close to putting this over.
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I thought you did a good job, Herb -- within the limits of what he allowed. His tactics were exactly the same as O'Reilly's, albeit affecting a less obviously belligerent tone: interrupt, deflect from the point you were making, appeals to authority, etc. He seemed determined to prevent you from speaking long enough to make a cohesive point. (This, in spite of his promise to give you "20 minutes" after the break.) His interruptions were positively manic.
How could anyone be persuaded by his opinion when he admits throughout the show that he has no ability to judge ANY scientific statements?
I have found that the most difficult part of talking to people on any aspect of 9/11 is that they don't know/understand what the official explanation is for any of the four events. They use snippets of various debunking arguments, which aren't even in alignment with the final governmental reports. (The Popular Mechanics arguments are in direct violation of the final NIST report, for example.) They haven't studied the films and photographs. They don't know that the various explanations which have been proffered over the years vastly contradict each other. The one caller who tried to sound authoritative didn't even know about WTC 7 -- and if you don't know about that, you can't claim any knowledge about events at Ground Zero.
I could go on and on and on. But if even one person visits the Utican site and sees the video of WTC 7, it was worthwhile. Goodonya!
I think you did a good job also Herb. Too bad I did not know when you were going to be on. I would have called in to put some degrees and experience behind your observations and clarify some points.
Bill Keeler is an mc, not a mathematician comic, but just a comic looking for sensationaism to boost his points.
He obviously does not want to go against authority even if he could see they are lying through their teeth.
I did notice when Dr. Jones called in to talk about the building shut down a month before 911 and evidence of drilling going on that Keeler cut him short. Yes, the fact that the guy in charge of security was Bushes brother who directed the shut down and removal of bomb sniffing dogs did not go unnoticed either.
Sofia Shafquat's 911Mysteries DVD does a good job of showing evidence of dust coming through the air vents while the construction was going on.
You did a masterful job of not being led down the garden path of who was behind it. According to Christopher Bollyn it was the Israel Mossad to use the False Flag attack as justification to have us fight Iraq and then Iran for them.
I must say the Zionist Jews who own the media and communist who have infiltrated all levels of our government are doing a great job of destroying the country we love.
What they did not talk about was how the FBI removed all sources of criminal evidence, cameras, etc.
Further more the FBI was warned weeks before 911 by a guy in a Jewis Cemetery overhearing some Jews talking in Hebrew about bringing the Twin Towers down. That guy was repeatedly denied any follow up by the FBI. I don't mean FBI field agents but their bosses who stymied them.
As a construction engineer with background in Math and Physics, my first impression was that it was a demo job. It had all the classic signs. Later on, the facts bore that out.
No question, there are elements of our executive, legislative and judicial brances who have taken over. Call them Zionist Jews or Communist. In reality, they are the terrorist.
What amazed me was the level of disinformation from the media, so called experts and so called scientific journals. Immediately they can name the so called terrorist but can't figure out how to stop airplanes an hour and a half into the event.
One gentleman who called and asked why after the 1993 bombing they were not able to stop it. Welll - if you are in on it why stop it?
There was so much information that did not make the press it is mind boggling. As for the Pentagon it has an automatic weapon system to protect it from attack. Did someone turn the switch off?
There was evidence from the size of the engine found that the plane that hit the pentagon was most likely a skyhawk missle. It was too small to be a 747 engine. And wasn't it convenient to have all those guys out immeidately after the explosion picking up the pieces under cloak of a canopy. Yes, there were airplane type pieces but not from a 747. And where are all the bodies? Did they just disappear from falling debris?
Of course the FBI had taken all the surrounding security cameras away at the same time.
I think Christopher Bollyn gives an accurate summary of events.
No sense talking false flag to the general population who need to believe authority figures. No amount of facts will disuade them from following their leader.
So here we are over 8 years after the event and nothing new. It's like revisiting the Kennedy assination in 1963. Buy off an investigating committee to present a semblance of reasonableness and most of the population will believe them.
Nothing new here, but good job.
Thanks. Got some key points in but could have done a little better.
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