"The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack" -- Robinson Jeffers
Wednesday, October 31, 2012
Pilots for 911 Truth Articles
The first piece is an analysis of the speeds of the aircraft alleged to have hit the Towers.
And secondly, government data shows Flight 11 and Flight 93 were still airborne after their crashes.
13 comments:
Anonymous
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There is no doubt that AA11 and UA175 did not impact the towers. Those flights were re-routed per whatever emergency protocol their crews were instructed to follow as were all aircraft in flight that day. That the NIST report provided “impossible” air speeds is not a surprise since that report is loaded with false data; therefore, it logically follows that remotely controlled aircraft—if standard--cannot be flown at those speeds as well, but that does not preclude the possibility that remotes were used at the towers and were not standard 767 series aircraft. Some eyewitness accounts stated the aircraft passing for 175 was not standard in size or markings.
It is also no surprise that UA93 was reported as still flying after the southeastern Pennsylvania impact occurred. Again, whatever crashed there was not 93, just as whatever appeared in New York was not 11 or 175. The crews in those planes may have been ordered to use another frequency to take directions and were unaware that their aircraft was being reported as those involved in incidents in New York and Shanksville.
When I was still writing for AFP, Thorn called me to tell me he had been contacted by an elderly woman who had read his book on Flight 93, a book that included extensive excerpts of my interviews in the AM days with Thorn, Guliani and Sammartino. Thorn said he was to call her back and wanted to know if I could get in on it and tape it with my Adobe software. We did call back, but she did not pick up. I had the name and the number and checked to see if she (Shirley) and her husband (Robert) were listed. They were.
Though disappointed, Thorn told me it wasn’t a surprise she didn’t pick up because, during their first conversation, Thorn could hear her husband’s protestations in the background to the effect that they both could be in trouble for talking about this to the press.
Cutting to the main points: She and her husband heard a crash near them. Later, around dark, they went out in their car and drove up Imgrund Mountain Road, a rough road that traverses a mountain ridge. (Imgrund starts from the northeast, just south of Lake Stony Creek and Indian Lake Marina at highway 160 aka Huckleberry Highway.) She said there was some smoke still hanging in the area, but they couldn’t press on any further because they feared their vehicle would get stuck in the rough and inclined terrain. They turned back.
If you check the road out on Google maps, you’ll see there are two major hairpins, indicating the intensity of the pitch of the slope. The road, east of the second hairpin, intersects with and ends at New Baltimore Road, which proceeds east into New Baltimore.
She claimed people were warned by law enforcement not to discuss what was going on. The town of New Baltimore was literally yellow-taped off. She said whatever crashed on the mountain was taken out in parts on trucks through the dead of night. She also said that many people know that 93 did not crash in the Shanksville crater, but will not talk fearing for their safety and retaliation by not only law enforcement but town officials and businesses that are doing well because of the tourists.
A remotely controlled aircraft need not be a mess to clean up, given that is most likely gutted of seats and with a minimum fuel load. The debris was probably taken out on the Pennsylvania Turnpike that has exits on each side of New Baltimore.
If you compare the Flight 93 map on the 9-11 Pilots’ site with a view on Google. The first stick pin is too far north, the second stick pin is east of New Baltimore, and the red dot is too far south of New Baltimore and the Turnpike. But the line drawn does pass over the crash site in the vicinity of Imgrund Mountain Road at the first hairpin. --Vyz
Why do you say that this aircraft was a drone? If the entire area and the Town of New Baltimore were yellow-taped off that means it was not a drone but a big aircraft and maybe flight 93 with its passengers!Not need to close an entire area to recover a drone!!!
This is complete garbage. Ever been up the New Baltimore side of Imgrund mountain road? Didn't think so. Neither has your little old lady. It's hard enough to get a trail bike up that end let alone anything less than a 4x4. Did they have one? If they did they'd have no need to turn around. I'd like to know where they did that on that narrow road. Maybe they managed to do it on their keyboard.
If I hear a crash, I'm probably not going to wait until "around dark" to traverse a nasty, narrow mountain road. I'm going to do it right away in an effort to help. With that said, if Flight 93 crashed in that mountain area during the day the authorities would have that blocked off so nobody would be driving up there. I'm sorry but this little old lady and her story of navigating a mountain road close to dark makes zero sense and is just more fabricated bullshit.
Little old lady and her hubby hear a crash, then wait until dark to investigate? BULLSHIT. Trucks haul whatever it is out through the cover of darkness? On a narrow, twisty-turny rough mountain road? BULLSHIT. Nice try though, good imagination.
13 comments:
There is no doubt that AA11 and UA175 did not impact the towers. Those flights were re-routed per whatever emergency protocol their crews were instructed to follow as were all aircraft in flight that day. That the NIST report provided “impossible” air speeds is not a surprise since that report is loaded with false data; therefore, it logically follows that remotely controlled aircraft—if standard--cannot be flown at those speeds as well, but that does not preclude the possibility that remotes were used at the towers and were not standard 767 series aircraft. Some eyewitness accounts stated the aircraft passing for 175 was not standard in size or markings.
It is also no surprise that UA93 was reported as still flying after the southeastern Pennsylvania impact occurred. Again, whatever crashed there was not 93, just as whatever appeared in New York was not 11 or 175. The crews in those planes may have been ordered to use another frequency to take directions and were unaware that their aircraft was being reported as those involved in incidents in New York and Shanksville.
When I was still writing for AFP, Thorn called me to tell me he had been contacted by an elderly woman who had read his book on Flight 93, a book that included extensive excerpts of my interviews in the AM days with Thorn, Guliani and Sammartino. Thorn said he was to call her back and wanted to know if I could get in on it and tape it with my Adobe software. We did call back, but she did not pick up. I had the name and the number and checked to see if she (Shirley) and her husband (Robert) were listed. They were.
Though disappointed, Thorn told me it wasn’t a surprise she didn’t pick up because, during their first conversation, Thorn could hear her husband’s protestations in the background to the effect that they both could be in trouble for talking about this to the press.
Cutting to the main points: She and her husband heard a crash near them. Later, around dark, they went out in their car and drove up Imgrund Mountain Road, a rough road that traverses a mountain ridge. (Imgrund starts from the northeast, just south of Lake Stony Creek and Indian Lake Marina at highway 160 aka Huckleberry Highway.) She said there was some smoke still hanging in the area, but they couldn’t press on any further because they feared their vehicle would get stuck in the rough and inclined terrain. They turned back.
If you check the road out on Google maps, you’ll see there are two major hairpins, indicating the intensity of the pitch of the slope. The road, east of the second hairpin, intersects with and ends at New Baltimore Road, which proceeds east into New Baltimore.
She claimed people were warned by law enforcement not to discuss what was going on. The town of New Baltimore was literally yellow-taped off. She said whatever crashed on the mountain was taken out
in parts on trucks through the dead of night. She also said that many people know that 93 did not crash in the Shanksville crater, but will not talk fearing for their safety and retaliation by not only law enforcement but town officials and businesses that are doing well because of the tourists.
A remotely controlled aircraft need not be a mess to clean up, given that is most likely gutted of seats and with a minimum fuel load. The debris was probably taken out on the Pennsylvania Turnpike that has exits on each side of New Baltimore.
If you compare the Flight 93 map on the 9-11 Pilots’ site with a view on Google. The first stick pin is too far north, the second stick pin is east of New Baltimore, and the red dot is too far south of New Baltimore and the Turnpike. But the line drawn does pass over the crash site in the vicinity of Imgrund Mountain Road at the first hairpin.
--Vyz
http://physics911.net/911-intercepted-a-presentation-by-pilots-for-911-truth
This is a good link describing the radar path as tracked or not tracked, by the FAA that day. The video was produced by Pilots For 911 Truth.
May be of interest to you fellows?
physics911.net/911-intercepted-a-presentation-by-pilots-for-911-truth
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Here's the direct link.
Thanks for the link Dissident. I'll try to put it up soon. And good stuff Vyz.
Hi,
Why do you say that this aircraft was a drone? If the entire area and the Town of New Baltimore were yellow-taped off that means it was not a drone but a big aircraft and maybe flight 93 with its passengers!Not need to close an entire area to recover a drone!!!
This is complete garbage. Ever been up the New Baltimore side of Imgrund mountain road? Didn't think so. Neither has your little old lady. It's hard enough to get a trail bike up that end let alone anything less than a 4x4. Did they have one? If they did they'd have no need to turn around. I'd like to know where they did that on that narrow road. Maybe they managed to do it on their keyboard.
If I hear a crash, I'm probably not going to wait until "around dark" to traverse a nasty, narrow mountain road. I'm going to do it right away in an effort to help. With that said, if Flight 93 crashed in that mountain area during the day the authorities would have that blocked off so nobody would be driving up there. I'm sorry but this little old lady and her story of navigating a mountain road close to dark makes zero sense and is just more fabricated bullshit.
Little old lady and her hubby hear a crash, then wait until dark to investigate? BULLSHIT.
Trucks haul whatever it is out through the cover of darkness? On a narrow, twisty-turny rough mountain road? BULLSHIT.
Nice try though, good imagination.
They didn’t go out to investigate, you moron !
No s*** dick tracy. They never went out at all!
No crap! They never went out at all!!
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You idiot ! I believe that woman !
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